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for republicans. one of the reasons we are at the fiscal cliff is the republican resolution was under the tacit assumption that they would control the white house, so who cared about everything stacked against them. the main problem was obama ran an absolutely brilliant campaign. republicans had a very weak field, and romney was the best of a very weak field. he himself was a very odd candidate. after the financial crisis, a man essentially of wall street, and a man whose essential issue of the 2010 campaign was obamacare, but he had passed something similar in massachusetts. he had two strikes against him, which made it very difficult begins the difficult rigid discipline obama to win. >> i think obama won because republicans underestimated him, and they did it through sell collision that goes back to 2010 when they considered this to be a referendum on barack obama. it was not a referendum on barack obama. it was a referendum on the economy and the incumbent, but not barack obama the person. republicans left the race feeling like this would be a slam-dunk in 2012. they missed the fact that th
america falling over the fiscal cliff? house republicans haven't yet called their members back to washington. our chief political correspondent, john harwood, is with us. john, this feels very much like it might be the calm before the storm in more way than one. >> it could be if we go over the cliff and the storm would be generated by the markets and the loss of confidence in american governance and the american economy, but that's not necessarily going to be the case. we still have a few days left. a white house official told me that there have been no progress over the last couple of days, but an aide to senator harry reid told me there's still a 50/50 chance we get a mini deal that would put off the effects of the cliff at least temporarily and a 50/50 chance of that happening before january 1st. so even though there's a small number of days, sometimes the urgency of a deadline forces lawmakers to overcome differences they can't overcome otherwise. >> remind us, john, a mini deal is composed in the senate but still has to pass through house republicans and boehner or not? >
as part of the overall deal here on the fiscal cliff. republicans have been resisting that by announcing the debt ceiling limit will be held on monday, ratchets up the pressure to include the debt ceiling piece in the final package, whatever that may be, but still not clear, carl, there is going to be a final package of any kind. one quick note, we saw the realism. pact in the real world of the debt situation. treasury announcing yesterday it has suspended the sale of state and local government securities, government series securities. so already, they are doing some maneuvering here financially to try to avoid that debtly limit. the treasury secretary says he doesn't know how much wiggle room they are going to have, given that all the fiscal cliff uncertainty is out there. >> eamon, on this idea that the house members get called back with 48 hours' notice. traders are looking for that headline if it happens almost that bleed out there or procedural moment where that is announced, so to speak? >> a good question. i have been in touch with republican leadership about that today. what they
sunday for a possible vote on the fiscal cliff field. republican leaders have not said whether they will act on the sandy bill or move a smaller alternative measure. congressional aides say the best chance for the full package to pass is if it moves in tandem with a potential agreement to avert the fiscal cliff. the strategy in the house is if they try to move this bill at the same time they move the fiscal cliff bill, it has a better chance of passing them by itself? guest: the house is back to deal with the fiscal cliff bill. the hope to supporters of the sandy supplemental is the house would do something on the fiscal cliff package and somehow they could use that as an opportunity to get the sandy bill through. the chance for the full supplemental to be passed before the end of the year, it will either be a smaller amount or they will not touch it at all. the senate will have to start over next year. host: raymond hernandez i need." >> they joined -- an unusual move they are working together as opposed to saying separately i am in new york, this is what i need, new jersey an
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there will be a conference call with house republicans later this afternoon to talk about the way forward on the fiscal cliff. we got this from another house republican a few moments ago. >> we're going over the cliff because frankly i believe it is what the president wants. if you go back and look how he has handled this negotiation from the very beginning, go back and look what his own administration has been telling him for years. that tax rates need to go up on everybody. this has been the president's position i believe from the very beginning and i think that's where we'll end up. >> reporter: the president suggested a christmas holiday, maybe a cooling-off period, a time for lawmakers to go home and think what they want to do about the fiscal cliff. it sounds like post-christmas everybody is more pessimistic than ever. harris? harris: they have got travel woes too right now. there are people who might want to get back to washington and can't as they wait for certain snowstorms to move along. mike, thank you very much. >> reporter: thank you. jon: you knew the fiscal cliff could hit you hard in the payc
that he thinks this will fiscal cliff matter comes down as one white house meeting two hours from now. another top senate republican said a short time ago that he was calling on president obama to lead. >> the president is not a senator anymore. he's a president. just as president reagan worked to deal with tip o'neill and bill clinton and president eisenhower, we need leadership on not just taxing rich people, but we contact them and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. greg: others are skeptical, noting that high-profile meetings are for show often times and all about tactics. we expect the president will try a stopgap measure extending middle-class tax rates, extending unemployment benefits for some 2 million americans, do some small spending cuts now, but not entitlement reform. an ally of the white house and the house of representatives offered this. >> this is not for show. it is a last-ditch effort by the president to bring the congressional leaders together to try and get at least a small package. a small deal together before the new year. in order to avoid some of the
. congressman, good to see you. could you back that scaled back plan to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? >> as i said all along, republicans don't want taxes to go up on anyone. if we have an impasse on january 1st, they go up on everyone. so at some point, i think that we republicans have got to realize that if we can't save everybody, we need to try to save as many people as possible. that's not advocating a tax increase. if a lifeguard sees ten people drowning off his beach and can only save nine of them, it doesn't mean he's drowned the tenth one. >> you're a strong, fiscal conservative, but part of that problem solvers camp who's not going to let the whole country go off the cliff. but what about your fellow fiscal conservatives? are there going to be enough of you to support a pared down plan that does raise taxes on 2% of americans? >> no, it doesn't raise taxes. those tax increases will go into effect. there's no bill before the congress that raises taxes. there are many bills that are trying to stop those taxes in various forms. and let me be clear. i think the president's plan
advocated his role in the fiscal cliff talks. he said it was up to the u.s. senate and the white house to do something. the sad reality is that boehner is leading a dysfunctional caucus with a vocal minority of tea partiers who can hold up the chantses for any deal. today harry reid accused boehner of caring more about his re-election as speaker than getting something done. take a listen. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. john baber seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> what is boehner's game plan? does he even have one? ryan grim is washington bureau chief for "the huffington post" and glenn johnston is politics editor for boston.com. i worked on the hill for years. you cover the hill and know it. that was a very personal shot from harry reid. is it accurate to say, open question, that speaker boehner is worried about staying speaker? >> yes. he's definitely -- i think he's not w
the road. let's go to louann on the republican line. caller: to me, the fiscal cliff is a small smokescreen. the fiscal cliff that is coming is obamacare. nobody is addressing obamacare. i have to find out friday will be taxed 2.3% on any device used on us in any of the medical fields. my husband's doctor wrote out a prescription for a blood drop for january. he said i do not know how much this will cost you out of pocket because of obamacare. my husband is over 70. he said he did not know how much longer he would be able to help him because of obamacare. this is a smokescreen. when people find out we will be taxed on medical devices, even our vet bills will be going up, this thing is a joke. the liberals will be hit just as hard as republicans. the tea party warned you this would happen. host: let's give the guys a chance to comment on the health care law and its place in this debate. guest: is not part of the fiscal cliff. there is a tax increase going into effect because of the health reform act. it is not considered part of the fiscal cliff. in terms of immediate damage to the economy,
with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal.
from wyatt, the fiscal cliff also includes 1.2 trillion in mandatory spending cuts. congressional democrats and republicans agreed to these drastic cuts last year, to force both parties to the table on deficit reduction. if they can agree by monday at midnight, the following cut take effects. over the next nine years, the u.s. defense budget would be reduced by $455 billion. domestic programs would be slashed by 464 billion. 1,000 government programs face potential cuts, including three that directly impact air travel. john bentley has the story. >> reporter: long waits at airport security are nothing new. but if the u.s. government goes over the fiscal cliff, they could get even longer. according to one congressional analysis, the transportation security administration would lose more than $640 million in funding, roughly 7% of out budget. t.s.a. with would also lose over 7,000 security officers. safety would not be compromised. the passenger misery would increase. >> it could be a severe impact on the traveling public. instead of maybe one hour, you may be there two or three hou
the talk of the fiscal cliff but the thing that's actually driving us off the fiscal cliff is our debt and the explosion in the entitlements and yet that's the very thing we avoid dealing with. you ask about what we should do? look, those on the republican side on the house have voted for the ryan budget and others which actually gave a vision of how to put market forces into entitlement spending. if you don't like the idea, give us another suggestion, but don't do what nancy pelosi has done where saying spending cuts are off the table. in that case we're negotiating with ourselves again. >> i'm sorry, we have to leave it there. congressman, have a pleasant flight back across the country tomorrow evening. >> it's always a joy. >> all right. >>> let's hear from the other side. representative allyson schwartz is a democrat from pennsylvania. michelle, jump in. >> she sits on the ways and means and budget committees. thanks so much for joining us, representative. you just heard that whole discussion. why is it, madam, that the democrats seem so resistant to any kind of reform to entitleme
to come up with a deal to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff in the u.s. will resume sunday. president obama says that congress must act now to avoid economic disaster. he has been meeting with republican and democratic leaders to reach a deal to avoid tax hikes and spending cuts that take effect january 1. >> the hour-long meeting with president barack obama was the first face-to-face session together with both republican leaders of the latest fiscal crisis. obama said he was modestly optimistic about the agreement by senate leaders on a compromise bill that could be voted on by monday. that is just two days before 6 under billion dollars of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts begin to take effect -- $600 billion of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts take effect. >> we want to make sure that unemployment insurance is still available for 2 million people and lay the groundwork for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps to take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline. >> we are working hard to get there in the next 24 hours. i'm hopeful and optimistic. >>
was not a fiscal one, it was political, to follow the victory in november by creating a civil war among republicans over the tax issue, which is exactly what happened. he said the 1 requirement i have for any deal is hiking tax rates. the reason that boehner was not able to do plan b was because it involved breaching the principle, which he did openly and said he was ready to do it. there were conservatives who would not do it. that is not a figure of the party that will be extremely hard to reconcile. if you can not, how you get a deal done before january 1? >> that is essentially the problem the president faced with boehner two years ago. last year. can he deliver? how can you negotiate with someone who cannot deliver on his side? >> you go to people for support, at least three of whom have lost their committee assignments. how can you expect them to come over to your way of thinking? >> they were crowing when john boehner went down, taking some delight, but that was pre- cleared by the leadership. the leadership was with him. this is not a question of -- quite bluntly, leaving and losing their v
on to cal on the republicans line in tennessee. what do you think of the fiscal cliff and where the negotiations are so far? >> i think they ought to go over the fiscal cliff. we have people like that that are on the government bill too long. they are sucking the tit of the federal government. i think everyone should pay their fair share. we have almost a $17 billion national debt. not only, the rich but everyone should pay their fair share. we also need some spending cuts too. $3 for every $1. if you don't do this we're going top find ourselfs in a situation -- you want to talk about unemployment, we're not going to be in a recession we're going to be in a depression. if we don't do this now, what are we going to do when the debt is at $23 trillion. what are we going to do then? >> we're going to bring you president obama's remark again shortly. we're taking a if you more calls. the numbers are on your screen and let us know what you think of the fiscal cliff negotiations so far. brian is on the independent line. go ahead. >> yes, ma'am. we don't have a revenue problem. it's a
of $100 billion last year. as the u.s. economy moves rapidly toward falling off the fiscal cliff, president obama is about to give a final push. negotiating with congressional leaders from both political parties. from the democrat-controlled senate, top democrat harry reid, and the top republican mitch mcconnell. senator reid says there is no time to reach a deal. mr. mcconnell says he is more optimistic. then from the republican controlled house of representatives, the top republican john boehner has rejected president obama's previous offers and the morse -- most senior democrat in the house, nancy pelosi. what is the cliff and can be avoided? >> the house of representatives will be going back into session sunday but at this point we do not know what kind of measure they have before them that they can consider for a vote. there has been no indication from the white house or the republican leadership that they are anywhere near any kind of makings of a deal that they could present to the house republican leadership -- or the house republican rank-and-file who so far have been ad
to the fiscal cliff. there are some signs of hope this morning. and it oob thanks to republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. peter doocy live in washington with the very latest. peter, i guess they reconvene 1:00 tomorrow which leads them oh tons of time to avert that fiscal cliff you are hearing from administration officials down here that republican the senatech mcconnell the is trying really hard to figure out a way to avoid the fiscal cliff public. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the expwrort leader can make to his conference. >> at yesterday's white house meeting, president obama did not offer negotiators anything new. he just tried to sell them on the same plan he outlined last friday, being called plan c. since the president's plan a and speaker boehner's plan b both failed to gain traction. plan c would extend middle class tax rates and we're told the senate wants
together to make something happen. host: you think the fiscal cliff debate is a good sign for the country? caller: absolutely, it is a good sign for the country. you know, america does not need money. america is money. america needs jobs. what kind of jobs? american jobs. what is on american jobs? to do the best and to bring the best things. that is the mayor, -- the america that i see. i seek some unity. i travel around the world. i see some the young americans everywhere. they become the best. host: from manitoba, canada, thank you so much for calling in. a few other stories we want to run through for you -- we will continue this discussion into the next segment. here is the story on federal workers getting a pay raise -- another story at what point you to, this from "the new york times" -- one other story i wanted to point out this morning, this from the new york daily news -- that is from the daily news this morning. i want to get one more call from walker from arizona, the democratic line. walter, what is your message to congress? caller: good morning. thank you for the opportunity t
tax hike of this fiscal cliff negotiation is concerned. both the republicans and democrats seem very inclined to allow payroll taxes to go back up for people who earn $50,000 a year. that's $1,000 less they will take home next year, and that's real money. >> the perception is they're doing that to help those zillion nares and billionaires at the top. i mean, to add to the pain is why you may be facing the pain is for people that have no pain might have a little less pain even more. i mean, it's incredible. you know, yes, it's good to say, but saving for a rainy day is good for those not drenched with the rain. you talk about people in the rain that are going to suffer who has this whole sermon that we hear from washington of shared sacrifice when we didn't have shared prosperity. >> absolutely. but those people who actually are trying to save right now, we've got a whole enormous sector that has absolutely no rainy it day fund whatsoever. half of the americans are financially fragile. they couldn't come up with 2,000 if they needed to come up with it without selling belongings or tak
will avoid going over the fiscal cliff. right? so a simple message. come back and let a majority in the house, republicans and democrats work their will and let the democracy works of that we can protect the middle class. it's also essentials but we passed the expansion of unemployment insurance. and that is why the president has been very clear on that since day one that should be part of any plan. these are people that are out of work through no fault of their own looking for jobs for what is still a very tough economy and providing unemployment benefits fell only to provide more security to those americans and their families but it is good for everybody else, too because it means those people that are continuing to look for work of a little bit more money to spend on goods and services to support their families and that's good for everybody else because when they are not spending a little bit more money it means the businesses can sell more goods and services and we have small business representatives here. the more they can sell those goods and services and the better off the whole countr
to the fiscal cliff. from "thew bid frittle bit washington times." this is ron from louisiana. caller: good morning. host: who wish to nominate? -- who would you'll nominate? caller: obama. host: what makes him your hero? caller: we were on a major slide when he came into office. he save the automobile and got osama bin laden. he did everything even though the gop did nothing but filibuster. every proposal he has made. the economy is still growing even though everything that has been put against him. host: are there other heroes you look to beside the president? caller: this year i believe he should be the star for what he has gone up against. he was trying to do a reasonable -- get a compromise and the gop was saying their way or nothing . it is costing the nation. host: thank you very much. this comes from twitter. host: i next call is on the independent line. good morning. caller: the bartender that took the videotape of mr. romney talking about the 47%. he showed an insight into the candidate. host: why is he a hero? caller: he had the courage to share with others. host: anybody else in
cliff," "i hope you are getting the situation that we are not going over the fiscal cliff." sadly, i have to tell them that we are not there, we are not here, we are not working. every democrat, every republican ought to be here. the speaker ought to call us back into session. it is not as if we do not have a lot of work to do. in fact, we have a lot of work to do. secretary geithner sent a letter to me and others yesterday, and it was reported in the paper today that america will reach its debt limit on december 31. that needs to be dealt with so that we can maintain the creditworthiness of this nation, so we can give confidence to this economy. in addition to that, there is much other business to do. over the past weeks, majority leader cantor said the house would do the work necessary to finish the items we needed to get done by the end of the year. i talked to mr. cantor today and urged him to have us come back. they are having a discussion about that, i think, at 2:30, shortly, the republican conference on a call. i hope they conclude as we have concluded -- and i speak for lead
into this meeting coming up on sunday night and what he thinks about the odds of avoiding the fiscal cliff. that should be very interesting coming up. >> before the break, let's check out what this ceo from milwaukee thinks about the impending fiscal crisis. >> my name is rich moussen. i'm the president and ceo of badger meters. we have about 1,400 employees around the world. the fiscal cliff is scary and should be scary. another recession. higher unemployment. economic slowdown. tax money taken out of the economy. those are major concerns. we're going to have to react as a business and it could result in cutbacks. the fiscal cliff was meant to be something that nobody wanted to go anywhere near, and here we are about to go off it. we really need our elected officials to figure this out. come up with a reasonable compromise that keeps our economy growing and gives us some certain about the future so we can make our plans as business leaders. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generatio
before the fiscal cliff hits on new year's day and with it, more than $600 million in tax hikes and spending cuts. in a last bid for a deal, president obama stated his terms face-to-face to top republicans and democrats. >> congressional leaders arrive ted white house this afternoon for their first group meeting with the president since november 16th. vice president biden and treasury secretary timothy geithner also attend. but there was little to suggest the makings of an 11th hour bargain. a source familiar with the meeting told the newshour its president is sticking with his offer from last friday. it included keeping the bush era tax break force the middle class but raising tax rates on incomes over 250,000 dollars a year. president also wants to extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million americans who will lose them in the new year. and a proposal would delay any spending cuts. the president asked for an up or down vote on his plan unless there is a counter proposal that will pass both the house and senate. a little more than an hour after the meeting began, several pa
the fiscal cliff, right? come back to work and let a majority in the house, republicans and democrats, work their will. let democracy work to protect the middle class. it is essential we pass the extension of unemployment insurance. that is why the president has been very clear on that since day one that it should be a part of any plan. these are people who are out of work through no fault of their own. they are looking for jobs in what is still a tough economy and providing unemployment benefits provide more security for those americans and their families, but it is good for everyone else also. those people have a little bit more money in their pockets to spend on goods and services to support their family which is good for everyone else. when they are spending money, businesses can sell more goods and services and we have some small business representatives here who know very well that the more people have money in their pockets, the more customers they have with money, the more they can sell their goods and services, and the better off the country will be. let's get back to work. allow t
cliff. that was not tax increase. if there is one thing that is important to republicans, it is taxes. this becomes a much more sensitive issue especially in the current environment. the debt ceiling, that is also important to the republican base. host: we are taking your calls and questions with stan collander and our other guest. joshua gordon. the numbers are -- the lines are open. stan, one week ago. right before christmas, the president told everybody to go home, drank some eggnog, take a breath, and we will come back and talk about this. how much movement did that stepping back give us? did it move anything at all? guest: it did not seem to change anybody's opinion. we have lost a few days. everybody is feeling more pressure to get back and do something. it did not change the basic spirit did not change the politics very much. part of this is that we have not gone over the cliff yet. a lot of the tax increases your mentioning. a lot of the tax -- a lot of the spending increases -- cuts and tax increases have not happened. people need to go to the senator and representative and s
, the president said he es modestly optimistic about a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, which would mean avoiding automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january 1. the president spoke to the nation this evening after an hourlong meeting with congressional leaders at the white house. democrat and republican leaders have agreed to extend jobless benefits and some tax increases. they appear to remain deadlocked on who exactly will pay those higher taxes. wo have two reports tonight, beginning with major garrett at the white house. major, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, jeff. two things are clear tonight arat were not clear this morning: progress is real, and if a deal is reached, it will be ir smaller than any of the key players envisioned only a couple weeks ago. is this deal, if it's to be reached, will not be the so- called grand bargain with trillions of dollars of deficit lionction. in fact, jeff, it's not even clear this deal-- again, if there is one-- would stop the across-the-board spending cuts ulr the defense department and peher government programs. it looks like those cu
minute fiscal cliff meetings and it appears there will be one tomorrow. harris? >> well, what kind of response is the president getting from lawmakers at this point? >> well, senate republicans say they are willing to listen to any ideas the president has as to how to find a way forward. here is more. >> last night i told the president we would be happy to look at whatever he proposes. but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline here. and as i said, this is a conversation we should have is had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> the senate is in session and this is the first time either the house or senate has been in session for legislative business between christmas and new year's since 1970. harris? >> harris: not to put too fine a point on, it i guess it is politics, i don't know. saw what looks like a bit of taunting teen the top senate democrat and the top house republican. >> a bit of taunting that happens sometime on capitol hill. t
, working to finish the task before us in reaching an agreement to avert the fiscal cliff. democrats are ready to work and, yes, ready to compromise. we understand we will not get it all our way. the legislative process is about compromise. democracy is about compromise. we have not done much of that this year, and frankly this house has been an extraordinarily partisan house where we passed legislation after legislation which the leadership knew it would not be adopted by the senate and the president would veto it. that has not been a constructive experience for the house or a constructive experience for america. i would hope the speaker today would call the house back into session to address these serious challenges confronting our country and giving confidence to our people, that their government is at work, that their government can work, and that their government will work. thank you very much. questions? yes. >> did you get a communication from the majority leader that they would be coming back? >> they would be discussing it today. i know they are discussing that issue. very f
. we acted to put off the fiscal cliff several months ago with a bill that without objection tend all of those bush tax rates into the future and would turn off the sequester by switching defense cuts over to domestic programs. democrats, of course have no intention of doing that. especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the negotiations at the end, there has been no progress over the holiday weekend. michelle, i'm afraid that people who are looking for a deal and looking for a deal by december 31, all hope is not lost. it is not looking good at the moment. >> let's go back to this hitting the debt ceiling on monday. we learned of this because treasury secretary tim good night mother sent a letter to the honorable harry reid majority lead
in response to what was going on in washington on the fiscal cliff. so they know this is angering people and they know this is affecting people's fortunes and livelihoods. but what they don't want to do is give up on deeply held principles. and a lot of these house members got elected in districts that don't look anything like the rest of america. they're very extreme, gerrymandered districts in many case s with ca ca ca cases, and their own personal careers depend much more on how they're perceived back at home. so they don't necessarily care that this is one of the most unpopular congresses in recent history and one of the most unproductive congresses in recent history. they want to stick by their principles. >> it's true. and a lot of them say, eamon, i've been elected to be a check on the president and that's what a lot of this is about. >> right. this is deeply held, fundamental belief on both sides and there's a huge chasm between the two sides on these issues. and somebody's going to be a loser here if there's a deal. somebody's going to be perceived as having gotten rolled and ne
president engaged in "serious overnight negotiations to avert the fiscal cliff, making major progress to a year-end tax deal, giving seven hoped to buy stakes than had been on the brink of collapse over the last couple days. guest: i think they may be able to pull something off in the senate. i think they're working together. that's a good first step. i'm really concerned and what they end up coming up with will make the deficit situation worse. that would be ok in the short run, if they had a plan to make the deficit situation better in a longer-term. i only hope they are talking about serious measures that would actually make medium and long-term improvements. but i'm really worried they're not. i'm worried this will be a bipartisan throwing the tough choices to the side and extending things people want to make sure not to him republics without asking any of us to be part of fixing the problem. what we really need is to see some real choices. host: senator joe manchin of west virginia had this to say on the senate floor. [video clip] >> something has gone terribly wrong when the big
republicans who are willing to compromise in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. including kay bailey hutchison of texas and johnny isakson of georgia. >> time is running out. and the truth of the matter is, if we do fall off the cliff after the president's maturitied, he'll come back, propose just what he proposed yesterday in leaving washington and we'll end up adopting it. why should we put the markets mn such turmoil and the people in misunderstanding or lack of confidence? why don't we go ahead and act now? >> the president is insisting tacks go up for the wealthy, but he's now scaled back his expectations for the rest of the year focusing only on a middle class tax cut and extended unemployment benefits. he said he still thinks some kind of deal can be reached, but that optimism is not shared by everyone. >> in the aftermath of the house republicans rejecting speaker boehner's so-called plan b, it's the first time that i feel it's more likely that we will go over the cliff than not and that, if we allow that to happen, it will be the most colossal consequential act of congressional irresp
in order to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, yeah, i would be. you know, i think it is remarkable that right after the election we get this thing that comes right up in our faces that basically outlines in bold relief the differences in the two ideas about how we go forward in this country. it is really excellent timing, and we may have to go over the cliff, if it is forced into it. but this idea that you bring down the cost of medicare by making it unavailable to more people is a terrible idea of mr. boehner's. the idea -- i would be terribly upset, along with many of my friends, if obama compromised too much on what needs to happen that is called the fiscal cliff. >> do you think a prominent third-party would help our country? >> i felt strongly about that when i supported john anderson in 1979. he was -- a large part of anderson's campaign was to sue the state ballot procedure into allowing third parties to have more access to the electoral process. i would like to see a third party available, but that, too, seems like a really tall order. >> what do you think is the appropriat
to headlines. start with fox news alerts. we may have the first sign of progress on the fiscal cliff. >> huh? >> listen up. just minutes ago on "fox news sunday" republican senator are lindsay graham said this. >> i think people don't want to go over the cliff if we can avoid it. what have we he accomplished? political victory for the president. he stood his ground. will get tax rate increases maybe not at 250 but on upper income americans and the sad news for the country is we accomplished very little in term its of not becoming greece or getting out of debt. this won't affect the debt situation. >> sort of hats off, wink, wink. >> the president told "meet the press" they hope to get a deal condon in the next 48 hours. >>> police say a guy broke into a woman's home and drove her to the bank of america branch where she worked. she triggered an alarm but the suspect escaped before police arrived. it took the bomb squad three hours to remove the device from her neck. she did escape unharmed luckily. >> a best friend becomes a hero after rescuing a boy who fell through the ice in iowa. they wer
difference to a lot of american families. going over the fiscal cliff is avoidable. there is still time to act. but president obama and 10 eric -- and harry reid believe it is one that can pass both houses. republicans agree. republicans have taken the step in the right direction. they pass legislation to replace this with responsible target it once and to bring our nation record debt under control. instead of considering the house plan to protect taxpayers democrats have spent months drawn partisan lines in the stands. the tax hike would only funds the government for eight days. americans deserve to know what the president proposes we do for the other 357 days a year. inaction should not be a problem. the problems facing our country are baked but not all that complicated. -- are big but not all that complicated. the next two days will begin to define the president's second term. he was elected to lead. >> we also got an update from oulaurie mcginley this morning. >> what kind of a deal did the president offered? what is new on the negotiations among and between the centers in the white
also referenced the impending fiscal cliff, which threatens to derail the economy if a compromise can't be reached by next week on those big unanswered issues. with both sides locked in the standoff, house republicans are calling on senate democrats to act first. democrats aren't budging much on their demands. they want to extend tax cuts and incomes below $250,000, prolong unemployment benefits, and delay those sweeping spending cuts. sam stein. >> yes. >> what happens in -- and it appears it will happen -- we go off the fiscal cliff for a few days? >> not much, is my understanding. kwb, over time, it will have much more of an impact, and it's unknown exactly what the market's psyche will do with respect to the government's inability to come together. with respect to the tax hikes, it won't be as bad as the rhetoric is suggesting early on. whether it's enough to actually get people to get back to the negotiating table -- because i agree with you, i think we're going to go over that deadline, that's the big question. what kind of political ramifications it will have. it's not as if yo
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